{"id":32729,"date":"2025-06-19T17:17:07","date_gmt":"2025-06-19T17:17:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dogewisperer.com\/?p=32729"},"modified":"2025-06-19T17:17:07","modified_gmt":"2025-06-19T17:17:07","slug":"99bitcoins-exclusive-zodia-markets-co-founder-nick-philpott-says-if-you-wait-for-the-regulator-youll-have-no-innovation-at-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dogewisperer.com\/?p=32729","title":{"rendered":"99Bitcoins Exclusive: Zodia Markets Co-founder Nick Philpott Says, \u201cIf you wait for the regulator, you\u2019ll have no innovation at all\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Nick Philpott, Co-founder of Zodia Markets \u2013 a digital asset trading business that has a strong backing from traditional financial giants like the British Bank, Standard Chartered Bank \u2013 has a controversial take on the need of regulatory clarity. Speaking during <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nordicblockchain.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the Nordic Blockchain Association<\/a> on 17 June 2025 he said that most regulations just synthesize down to don\u2019t lie, don\u2019t cheat, and don\u2019t steal. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cSaying that you need to wait for the regulator to say \u2018yes, you can do this or that\u201d means you\u2019ll have no innovation at all,\u201d insisted Philpott.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Talking about stablecoins specifically he said, \u201cStablecoins are definitionally cross-border.\u201d However, expressing concerns about Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA), he said, \u201cOne of my biggest concerns around MiCA is that there are definitely traces of protectionism in there, trying to put the walls up, trying to promote the adoption of Euro stablecoins. I get it. But the problem is if you put walls up in a world that is globalizing, that has a tool, that is definitionally global, then you\u2019re going to cut yourselves off from quite a lot of those opportunities.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><b>\u201cThe way I think about things like USDC or Tether particularly, is that they\u2019re Eurodollars. We\u2019ve had Eurodollars since the 1950s. Tether is issued by an El Salvadorian company. It\u2019s not issued out of the US. So it is international by design.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><b>\u201cEU is almost a victim of its own success,\u201d Says Zodia Markets Co-founder<\/b><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>\u201cIf you come from an institutional background that we do, actually there\u2019s quite a lot of regulations that you can just draw from to run a business pretty well. You don\u2019t necessarily need to wait for the regulators to actually write a licensing framework. We\u2019re a UK-based company, still not regulated. Regulators haven\u2019t written the regulations yet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Talking about payments in the EU, he said it actually work pretty well. \u201cSEPA is good, Target 2 is good, instant payments is pretty good. Banks are okay.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But, according to him the EU is a victim of its own success. \u201cTo illustrate,\u201d he said \u201cZodia Markets, our number one currency in terms of stablecoin volumes is the US dollar stablecoins. Number two is Turkish Lira. We do more volume in the one Turkish Lira stablecoin than we do in all the Euro stablecoins combined by a factor of 100. Because settling Turkish Lira is not that easy. Getting a Turkish Lira bank account offshore \u2013 it\u2019s not that easy. But you can hold Turkish Lira stablecoins pretty much anywhere you want to go.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">DISCOVER:\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/99bitcoins.com\/cryptocurrency\/next-crypto-to-explode\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">20+ Next Crypto to Explode in 2025\u00a0<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Cash is \u201cSlow, Unpredictable and Expensive\u201d<\/h2>\n<p>Talking in favour of interoperability, he said that it is probably the more important thing in the near term. \u201cIf you run a crypto business like we do, the biggest problem you have running that is cash. It\u2019s slow, it\u2019s pretty unpredictable, it\u2019s definitely expensive. It doesn\u2019t work at weekends. It stops working in the evening. If we ran email the same way we run cross-border payments, you wouldn\u2019t be able to send an email after 5 pm. If I have Hotmail and the these guys have Gmail, I can\u2019t email them. And so on and so forth. We don\u2019t run email like that because that would be insane,\u201d he pointed out.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you\u2019re able to take cash and different assets and put it onto the open internet, then that offers the opportunity of interoperability. One of the simplest use cases that we\u2019re seeing, because we work in wholesale markets rather than retail card payments or on the retail side, is cross-border trade. Now, if you\u2019re trying to just move a cargo container of something from A to B, that can\u2019t talk to the cash,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>\u201cAnd in terms of cross-border trade, it\u2019s not so much like finance where you\u2019re trying to bring financial infrastructure from the 19th, the 20th century into the 21st century. Trade, you\u2019re coming from the 17th century to the 21st century. The leap is absolutely dramatic.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Explore: <a href=\"https:\/\/99bitcoins.com\/news\/99bitcoins-exclusive-okx-launches-in-germany-poland-as-companys-nordics-general-manager-discusses-mica-implications\/\">99Bitcoins Exclusive: OKX Launches In Germany, Poland As Company\u2019s Nordics General Manager Discusses MiCA Implications\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Use Cases of Stablecoins \u201cBoggles the Mind\u201d<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\u201cStablecoins are particularly useful for the 20% of situations that cause you 80% of the anxiety, pain, and grief.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>New episode of The New Money Podcast with Nick Philpott, Co-Founder &amp; Head of Partnerships at <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/zodiamarkets?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">@zodiamarkets<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>We unpacked:<br \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/15.1.0\/72x72\/25ab.png\" alt=\"\u25ab\" class=\"wp-smiley\" style=\"height: 1em; max-height: 1em;\">how stablecoins are transforming\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Ferdinand Dabitz (@FerdiDabitz) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FerdiDabitz\/status\/1935666865012941256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">June 19, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t see a huge amount of programmability yet because the incremental improvements on using cash for the various different examples that have been given, are already so profound that I think a lot of players\u00a0 are still just grappling with the implications of that. We have two clients that are remittance companies and for them it\u2019s a balance sheet play. So if you\u2019re a taxi driver here and you\u2019re sending money home to Nigeria, then the remittance companies give the impression of an instant payout by holding huge amounts of Nigerian Naira in Nigerian banks. Nigerian banks are pretty risky. The Nigerian Naira depreciated by 80% last year. It\u2019s a pretty expensive solution. And getting access to dollar banking in Nigeria is far from easy. So sending stablecoins to Nigeria is far, far faster.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn the cross-border shipping side, we\u2019re working with a very, very large port operator with our sister company, Zodia Custody. They already have a platform that allows the tracking of supply chain, so you can see where your cargo container is. The problem is talking to the banks, knowing where your money is, how you\u2019re paying for the truck, how are you paying for the 120 million dollars of crude oil on the tanker. You can\u2019t speak to the banks, you certainly can\u2019t speak to the central banks.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2><b>\u00a0Standard Chartered has Seen the Digitization of Payments<\/b><\/h2>\n<blockquote>\n<p><b> I suspect that some US banks in particular are probably not feeling that same pressure. I was in the US recently and I saw people paying for stuff with paper checks. I thought I\u2019d wandered back into the \u201990s. That sort of thing is still acceptable in the US. So they\u2019re not feeling the same pressure. <\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Talking about technology, he said, \u201c2018, I was in the electronic trading team at Standard Chartered. We did a Bitcoin test trade. It was like rolling a wrecking ball through the systems. It broke every system it touched, including the general ledger. We\u2019ve never broken that before. That was when we realized that we weren\u2019t going to be able to put crypto into the traditional banking systems. So we set up Zodia Custody and Zodia Markets in sequence.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2><b>\u201cI\u2019m not convinced that CBDCs have a cross-border application\u201d<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cI\u2019m not convinced that central bank digital currencies have a cross-border application because you\u2019d need to network up all of the different currencies,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s 180 currencies, so that\u2019s like 16-ish thousand bilateral combinations.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cCLS, which is a system that\u2019s used to remove settlement risk in foreign exchange, has been trying to network up central bank systems since 2002. It\u2019s done 18 currencies so far. So at the current pace, they\u2019ll do the other 172 in about 200 years time. It\u2019s not going to happen.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cDoes the world really need 180 currencies? Would we notice if we lost the Tigrinya, the Guarani, the Panga, um the Manat, the Tenge? People are sitting there Googling. Is he making these up? They\u2019re all real currencies. I don\u2019t think people would notice if they disappeared.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Explore:\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"general-link\" href=\"https:\/\/99bitcoins.com\/cryptocurrency\/new-cryptocurrency\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Best New Cryptocurrencies to Invest in 2025<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/99bitcoins.com\/news\/99bitcoins-exclusive-zodia-markets-co-founder-nick-philpott-says-if-you-wait-for-the-regulator-youll-have-no-innovation-at-all\/\">99Bitcoins Exclusive: Zodia Markets Co-founder Nick Philpott Says, \u201cIf you wait for the regulator, you\u2019ll have no innovation at all\u201d<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"https:\/\/99bitcoins.com\/\">99Bitcoins<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nick Philpott, Co-founder of Zodia Markets \u2013 a digital asset trading business that has a strong backing from traditional financial giants like the British Bank, Standard Chartered Bank \u2013 has a controversial take on the need of regulatory clarity. 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