{"id":62349,"date":"2025-12-08T07:31:37","date_gmt":"2025-12-08T07:31:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dogewisperer.com\/?p=62349"},"modified":"2025-12-08T07:31:37","modified_gmt":"2025-12-08T07:31:37","slug":"bitcoin-quantum-doomsday-fears-are-overblown-a16z-research-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dogewisperer.com\/?p=62349","title":{"rendered":"Bitcoin Quantum \u2018Doomsday\u2019 Fears Are Overblown, a16z Research Says"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>A new a16z crypto research paper argues that apocalyptic narratives about quantum computers instantly killing Bitcoin are badly misaligned with reality, and that the real risk for blockchains lies in long, messy migrations rather than a <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/bitcoin-quantum-threat-before-next-us-election\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener \">sudden \u201cQ-Day\u201d collapse<\/a>. The piece has already triggered a sharp rebuttal on X from investors who say the threat is closer and harder than a16z suggests.<\/p>\n<h2>Bitcoin Isn\u2019t Doomed By Quantum Computing: a16z<\/h2>\n<p>In the <a href=\"https:\/\/a16zcrypto.com\/posts\/article\/quantum-computing-misconceptions-realities-blockchains-planning-migrations\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">article<\/a> \u201cQuantum computing and blockchains: Matching urgency to actual threats,\u201d a16z research partner and Georgetown computer science professor Justin Thaler sets the tone early, writing that \u201cTimelines to a cryptographically relevant quantum computer are frequently overstated \u2014 leading to calls for urgent, wholesale transitions to post-quantum cryptography.\u201d He argues that this hype distorts cost\u2013benefit analyses and distracts teams from more immediate risks such as implementation bugs.<\/p>\n<p>Thaler defines a \u201ccryptographically relevant quantum computer\u201d (CRQC) as a fully error-corrected machine capable of running Shor\u2019s algorithm at a scale where it can break RSA-2048 or <a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/quantum-researchers-1-bitcoin-break-toy-version\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener \">elliptic-curve schemes<\/a> like secp256k1 in roughly a month of runtime. In his assessment, a CRQC in the 2020s is \u201chighly unlikely,\u201d and public milestones do not justify claims that such a system is probable before 2030.<\/p>\n<p>He stresses that across trapped-ion, superconducting and neutral-atom platforms, no device is close to the hundreds of thousands to millions of physical qubits, with the required error rates and circuit depth, that would be needed for cryptanalysis.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the a16z piece draws a sharp line between encryption and signatures. Thaler argues that harvest-now-decrypt-later (HNDL) attacks already make post-quantum encryption urgent for data that must remain confidential for decades, which is why large providers are rolling out hybrid post-quantum key establishment in TLS and messaging.<\/p>\n<p>But he insists that signatures, including those securing Bitcoin and Ethereum, face a different calculus: they do not protect hidden data that can be retroactively decrypted, and once a CRQC exists, the attacker can only forge signatures going forward.<\/p>\n<p>On that basis, the paper claims that \u201cmost non-privacy chains\u201d are not exposed to HNDL-style quantum risk at the protocol level, because their ledgers are already public; the relevant attack is forging signatures to steal funds, not decrypting on-chain data.<\/p>\n<h2>Bitcoin-Specific Headaches<\/h2>\n<p>Thaler still flags Bitcoin as having \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/bitcoin-quantum-survival-plan-what-you-can-do\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener \">special headaches<\/a>\u201d due to slow governance, limited throughput and large pools of exposed, potentially abandoned coins whose public keys are already on-chain, but he frames the time window for a serious attack in terms of at least a decade, not a few years.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBitcoin changes slowly. Any contentious issues could trigger a damaging hard fork if the community cannot agree on the appropriate solution,\u201d Thaler writes, adding \u201canother concern is that Bitcoin\u2019s switch to post-quantum signatures cannot be a passive migration: Owners must actively migrate their coins.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, Thalen flags a \u201cfinal issue specific to Bitcoin\u201d which is its low transaction throughput. \u201cEven once migration plans are finalized, migrating all quantum-vulnerable funds to post-quantum-secure addresses would take months at Bitcoin\u2019s current transaction rate,\u201d Thaler says.<\/p>\n<p>He is equally skeptical of rushing into post-quantum signature schemes at the base-layer. Hash-based signatures are conservative but extremely large, often several kilobytes, while lattice-based schemes such as NIST\u2019s ML-DSA and Falcon are compact but complex and have already produced multiple side-channel and fault-injection vulnerabilities in real-world implementations. Thaler warns that blockchains risk weakening their security if they jump too early into immature post-quantum primitives under headline pressure.<\/p>\n<p>Industry Split On The Risk<\/p>\n<p>The most forceful pushback has come from Castle Island Ventures co-founder Nic Carter and Project 11 CEO Alex Pruden. Carter summed up his view on X by saying the a16z work \u201cwildly underestimates the nature of the threat and overestimates the time we have to prepare,\u201d pointing followers to a long thread from Pruden.<\/p>\n<p>Pruden begins by stressing respect for Thaler and the a16z team, but adds, \u201cI disagree with the argument that quantum computing is not an urgent problem for blockchains. The threat is closer, the progress faster, and the fix harder than how he\u2019s framing it &amp; than most people realize.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He argues that recent technical results, not marketing, should anchor the discussion. Citing neutral-atom systems that now support more than 6,000 physical qubits, Pruden points out that \u201cwe now have a non annealing system with more than 6000 physical qubits in the neutral atom architecture,\u201d directly contradicting any implication that only non-scalable annealing architectures have reached that scale. He notes that work such as Caltech\u2019s 6,100-qubit tweezer array shows large, coherent, room-temperature neutral-atom platforms are already a reality.<\/p>\n<p>On error correction, Pruden writes that \u201csurface code error correction was experimentally demonstrated last year, moving it from a research problem into an engineering problem,\u201d and points to rapid advances in color codes and LDPC codes.<\/p>\n<p>He highlights Google\u2019s updated \u201cTracking the Cost of Quantum Factoring\u201d estimates, which show that a quantum computer with about one million noisy physical qubits running for roughly a week could, in principle, break RSA-2048 \u2014 a twenty-fold reduction from Google\u2019s own 2019 estimate of twenty million qubits.<br \/>\n\u201cResource estimates for a CRQC running Shor\u2019s algorithm have dropped by two orders of magnitude in six months,\u201d he notes, concluding, \u201cTo say that this trajectory of progress might potentially deliver a quantum computer before 2030 is not an overstatement.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Where Thaler emphasizes HNDL as an encryption problem, Pruden reframes blockchains as uniquely attractive quantum targets. He stresses that \u201cpublic keys used in digital signatures are just as easy to harvest as encrypted messages,\u201d but in blockchains those keys are directly tied to visible value. He points out that \u201cthese public keys are distributed &amp; directly associated with value ($150B for Satoshi\u2019s BTC alone),\u201d and that once a quantum adversary can forge signatures, \u201cIf you can forge a signature, you can steal the asset regardless of when that original UTXO\/account was created.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Pruden, this economic reality means \u201cthe economic incentives simply and clearly point to blockchains as being the first cryptographically relevant quantum use case,\u201d even if other sectors also face HNDL risks. He adds that \u201cblockchains will be far slower to migrate than centralized systems. A bank can upgrade its stack. Blockchains must reach global consensus, absorb performance trade-offs from PQ signatures, and coordinate millions of users to migrate their keys.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Invoking Ethereum\u2019s multi-year shift from proof of work to proof of stake, he writes, \u201cThe closest thing was the ETH 1.0 to<a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/eth-2-0-isnt-the-upgrade-we-have-been-waiting-for\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener \"> 2.0 transition<\/a> which took years, and as complex as that was, a PQ migration is much harder. Anyone who thinks this is a matter of swapping a few lines of signature code has simply never shipped, deployed, or maintained a production blockchain.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pruden agrees with Thaler that panic is dangerous, but flips the conclusion: \u201cI agree that rushing is dangerous. But that is exactly why work must begin now. The most likely failure mode is that the industry waits too long, and then a major QC milestone triggers a panic.\u201d He closes by saying he disagrees that \u201cquantum computing is progressing slowly,\u201d that \u201cblockchains are less vulnerable than systems exposed to HNDL risk,\u201d or that \u201cthe industry has years of slack before action is needed,\u201d arguing that \u201cAll three assumptions are at odds with reality.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At press time, Bitcoin stood at $91,616.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-641741\" src=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?resize=1024%2C473\" alt=\"Bitcoin price\" width=\"1024\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=3628 3628w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=640 640w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=768 768w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=980 980w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=1536 1536w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=2048 2048w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=750 750w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=1140 1140w, https:\/\/bitcoinist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/BTCUSDT_2025-12-08_07-49-23.png?w=3000 3000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A new a16z crypto research paper argues that apocalyptic narratives about quantum computers instantly killing Bitcoin are badly misaligned with reality, and that the real risk for blockchains lies in long, messy migrations rather than a sudden \u201cQ-Day\u201d collapse. 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